some may still deny the overwhelming judgment of science, but none can avoid the devastating impact of raging fires and crippling drought and more powerful storms. >> i want to bring in our panel of van jones, sally quinn, margaret hoover, and cornell belcher. were you surprised to hear him talk about climate change, and really kind of go on about it? we haven't heard much over the last four years about it? >> i was certainty surprised. i don't think we have really done a good job in society right now of dealing with this question. you have a dust bowl forming right now. we have one of the biggest droughts since really the dust bowl, since the great depression, before the great depression. we had wildfires like we have never seen before all across the west. we had this massive storm, and no discussion about it. i think that was one of the great failures of the american political system, the media system, not to address this. meanwhile, the scientists are getting more and more concerned and more and more in unity. now there's greater unity about the question of humans causing global war